Saturday, January 13, 2007

Toying with Diggers

I occasionally go over to the digg.com site to mess with people. I get the impression that most of the people who post there are just stupid kids -- or adults who have the maturity level of stupid kids. I seem to be what is known as a thread-killer, because when I say something, the discussion either comes to a halt or someone responds with juvenile invective -- and THEN the discussion comes to a halt. Here's an example of one of my discussions. The original poster, someone named azntzouie, (what?) posted this: "On the fever chart of rising temperatures, 2006 was the warmest year on record for the 48 contiguous states--in some places daffodils bloomed out of season and bears forgot to hibernate--government climate experts reported Tuesday." He left a link to this article. Well, I responded with this: "Just based on the fact that self-declared environmentalists are ALWAYS wrong about EVERYTHING, I'm going to predict that we are going to have some of the worst winter storms in 30 years. I used to be a TV weatherman. So, I have just enough knowledge to know that any predictions beyond seven days are just hoodoo that they do. Global warming? I predict another ice age. I am just as qualified to predict a future doom as Al Gore is. Neither of us have degrees in environmentalism or in meteorology. The only difference between us is I'm not making a fortune on speaking fees." One of the typical digger morons responded with this: "Global warming? I predict another ice age." "That statement alone shows me you don't have a clue what global warming even means. If you ever were a "weatherman" I can see why you no longer are. Global warming leads to an ice age, bright boy." It appears I really am a bright boy, because I just posted this: "TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- Freezing rain fell in the nation's midsection Friday, and temperatures plunged from Minnesota to Las Vegas as a storm rolled in that could leave several states coated in ice. At least four deaths have been blamed on the storm, some schools closed early Friday, and dozens of flights were delayed. "It could definitely be a paralyzing storm. This is going to be a long-term event," said Max Blood, a senior forecaster with the National Weather Service in Tulsa, where at least two airlines, Southwest and Atlantic Southeast, canceled all afternoon flights. In Missouri, dozens of flights were canceled at Lambert-St. Louis International Airport. In Texas, about 60 flights were canceled at the Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. Several inches of ice was expected in parts of Kansas by the end of the weekend. Oops. Looks like my prediction is coming true. Now THIS is an inconvenient truth!" And this: "More proof that you can't go wrong doing the exact opposite of what liberals say. LOS ANGELES, January 12, 2007 - A cold snap hit the Southland amid forecasts of record or near-record low temperatures Friday and Saturday night in metropolitan, coastal and valley areas of Los Angeles County. Post-midnight lows early Friday included 16 in Woodland Hills and 8 in some mountain areas of Los Angeles County, including Warm Springs and Sandberg. The National Weather Service issued a Freeze Warning, effective from 1 a.m. Saturday until 9 a.m. Sunday, for the Santa Monica Recreational Area and the San Fernando, San Gabriel and Santa Clarita valleys -- areas where a "hard freeze" was expected . A Freeze Warning is issued when temperatures are expected to dip to 28 degrees or lower for a period of two hours or more. NWS forecasters said near-record low temperatures are possible Friday and Saturday night in downtown Los Angeles and other metropolitan and coastal areas of the city, and record lows are possible in the San Fernando and San Gabriel valleys. The forecast for the Antelope Valley was for record or near- record lows. The forecast highs through Saturday will range from the mid 40s to the mid 50s at low elevations and the 20s and 30s in mountain areas, along "very cold" lows -- below freezing, in some cases -- through Sunday morning." The original posters have fled the scene of the crime. I seem to be keeping the thread going all by myself. It's lonely at the top.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Fifteen below here in ND, I want that global warming.

One of the things that boggle the mind about global warming is the year with out summer back in the early 1800's that was caused by a volcano that just so happened to spew the same "green house gases" the cars spew that allegedly cause global warming. The history channel was trying to claim that the mini-ice age ended with industrialization that started in the middle of that century. Nonsense, considering the following year after the the year with out a summer everything returned to normal.

Like I've posted on my blog I believe in global warming because it occurred after every ice age this planet has seen.

The fact that this is whole saled believed, I guess that's what you get with public education.

Mark said...

The environmentalist whacko's use some weird theory to demonstrate that unusually cold weather is also a sign of global warming. I don't understand the theory. It makes no sense. It makes my head hurt.

But the fact is, these people will continue to believe in the myth of global warming until the so-called environmental scientists come out with "evidence" that there is no global warming after all, and replace that theory with one equally ridiculous but even more threatening.

Only then will they change their minds, and then they will refuse to acknowledge we were right in the first place.

By the way, my 17 year old son's "Earth Science" teacher at his school showed the students Gore's "Inconvienient Truth" film, after which my son asked the teacher, "How do they know the Earth's temperature will get warmer in a hundred years when they can't even predict what the weather will be tommorrow?"

Chip off the ol' block, eh?

BB-Idaho said...

The data isn't all in yet. The science and algorithms (Al Gore
Rythems?) used to model atmospheric properties vs temperature are still in their
infancy. The non-political folk
who study the phenomenon cautiously say this
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/GlobalWarming/
Between Gore/enviromentalists on one side and Industry/religous right/conservatives on the other,
"facts" have become political
catchwords, we see want we want and the scientific process is poorly served.

Vigilis said...

Right on!, Lone Ranger. Despite million dollar doppler systems, none of the TV weather forecasters yet beats looking outside for an accurate weather forecast. True, when the rare tornado warning is in effect, they can localize the threatened area bewteen major interstate highways. Despite all the global warming baloney, so little weather history has been recorded that recorded data is still STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
Grant addicts are not scientists.

Reading you a long time without realizing you must be a masochist to toy with sites like digg.com. Recommend you try Brads blog next time you are up to it. I almost lost my faith in humanity trying to present facts to that cult. Finally, I tired of their name calling and recitation of beliefs without citation of facts.

One more thing about the coming Ice Age... we will know it is upon us by more severe weather extremes than ever recorded in terms of high and low temperature transients, and storm frequency and magnitude. We have not seen such yet, however, including Cat 7 hurricanes and higher.

Lone Ranger said...

If there's one thing I learned in my two years in weather, it's that forecasting is more of an art than a science. Global warming is a theory. And the assumption that people caused it or could reverse it is just wild speculation. I don't know why liberals are so eager to embrace junk science. Maybe it's their inability to think logically. But scientists are continually wrong. Eggs are bad for you, eggs are good for you, alcohol is bad for you alcohol is good for you, atomic radiation is harmless, atomic radiation is deadly. Just this last week, it was announced that people aren't eating enough fat. Yes, fat is now good for you.

And the junk science that liberals have elevated to the level of religion is Darwinism. Darwin came out with his Origin of Species in 1859. 1859!!

What other scientific theories have survived nearly 150 years without being proven or debunked? Phrenology is dead, eugenics is dead, Yet Darwinism plods along as a "theory," virtually unchanged since the middle of the 19th century, more a religios conviction than a science.

Weather is a science of observation. We can tell what weather conditions existed thousands of years ago by examining tree rings, ice, soil samples, etc. But we can predict the weather only by observing what it is west of us. We observe what the weather is in Denver, we plot the path of the weather, observing lows and highs, cold fronts and warm fronts in its path, and we predict where it will head next. It's like plotting the flight of a flock of geese.

But as for predicting the weather a hundred years or a decade or even a month from now, that is pure guesswork, no matter how many computer models and AlGorerythms (good one, I like it) you run.

"Two snowflakes never are the same,
The scientists agree;
But have they proved what they proclaim?
I watch the myriads that fall
And leave it up to chance,
That here and there among them all
Twin snowflakes dance."

Velma West Sykes